Ancestors of John Oaten
Birth: 1770 - Wilton, Somerset
Christening: 16 Sep 1770 - Somerset
Cause of Death:
Father: John Oaten
Spouses and Children
1. *Hannah Tamsey
Marriage: 20 Apr 1895 - Pitminster, Someset
1. John Oaten
Note re the connection between the Oaten and Gillett families.
The following is the result of some research on the connection between the Gillett and Oaten families done by Rosemary Mountjoy and Stephan Thomas.
The mention of a friendship between John Oaten (b1770) and William (b1864?) should be 1799?) came from Iolene Oaten in New Zealand a couple of years ago. I seem to remember that she said that the friendship was likely to have been in London, but my research, from dates and places of his marriage and the births of his children, suggests that he was in Somerset until about 1811 (birth of 7th child) and then moved to London (births of Nos. 8 and 9).
It appears that the geographical and historical overlap of what we think we know about William Gillett (1864) and John Oaten (1770) is Somerset between c1806 when WG left Exeter and before May 1814 when William Henry Oaten was born in Marylebone, although this is a very simplistic assumption, but it doesn't help our search for WG in London.
This is some information I have about John Oaten: Born c1770 Wilton, Somerset (Iolene). Bapt 16 Sep 1770, Somerset, son of John Oaton (sic) and Mary [England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975]. Married Hannah Tamsey either 19 or 20 Apr 1795 Pitminster, Somerset [both entries England, Marriages, 1538-1973]. Children: Elizabeth bc1795 Pitminster, Somerset; Sarah bc1798 Wilton, Somerset; John bc1800 and died 17 Aug 1800, Wilton Somerset; John b 17 Mar 1802 Wilton Somerset d 11 Apr 1866 Melbourne Australia (related to Iolene Oaten); Mary Ann bc 1805 Taunton Somerset; Joseph bc 1807 Wilton Somerset; Harriet bc 1811 Taunton Somerset d 01 Dec 1844 Kensington London; William Henry b 08 May 1814 Marylebone Middlesex; Arthur 12 May 1815 London d 24 Jan 1816 Marylebone Middlesex. Wilton was about a mile south west of Taunton, and has been absorbed within it, and was about three miles from Staplegrove where Fivehead House(Fairwater House?) was. Pitminster is about three miles south east of Wilton.
What we do know is that William Edward Gillett was named as Executor in John Oaten (1770)'s Will written 21 March 1837, together with John's son (also named John, b1802 above). At that time John Oaten senior is 'of Queen Street, Edgeware (sic) Road in the County of Middlesex, Gentleman (so I unfortunately don't have an occupation for him). Iolene sent me her transcription of his will which also included "I give to my niece Mary Gillett the sum of fifty pounds" (Mary being WEG's wife). So certainly JO (1770) knew, or knew of, WEG (as the husband of his niece, they were married in 1825 in Taunton), but I can find no definite confirmation of his knowing WG. JO (1770) died 20 Nov 1837.
There is more information about John Oaten (b1802) but it doesn't provide any links to the Gilletts. The following from the London Gazette (Issue 21297 published on the 2 March 1852) includes various addresses of his:
"COURT FOR RELIEF OF INSOLVENT DEBTORS.
The following persons, who, on their several Petitions filed in the Court, have obtained Interim Orders for protection from process, are required to appear in Court as hereinafter mentioned, at the Court-House, in Portugal street, Lincoln's-Inn, as follows, to be examined and dealt with according to the Statute:
On Wednesday the 17th March 1852, at Eleven o'Clock precisely, before the Chief Commissioner:
John Oaten, formerly of No. 4, Newland-street, Eaton-square, Middlesex, Cook, afterwards of No. 10, Caroline-street, Eaton-square aforesaid, Cook, then of No. 1, Park-place, Petersham, Surrey, Cook at the Star and Garter, Richmond, Surrey, afterwards of Kew Foot-lane, Richmond aforesaid, Cook, then of No. 4, Cambridge-place, Paddington, Middlesex, Cook to Her Majesty's 2nd Regiment of Life Guards, and now of No. 13, Jubilee-place, Chelsea, Cook to Mr. Win. Walter Mabey, of No. 33, New Bond-street, Middlesex, Turtle Dealer." [<http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/21297/pages/693>]
So, we have an occupation for him of Confectioner in 1841 census and Cook in 1851 census and above in 1852, and he emigrated to Australia arriving in Melbourne in 1854, with his second family.
Looking at the 1841 census entry for JO in Curzon Street, Mayfair, I find it hard to see a connection between him as a Confectioner with wife and children and the following entries of Viscount Northland with his brothers the Hons S and G Knox, and wonder whether the enumerator forgot the small double mark between households. The entry for Viscount Northland with the age rounded is rather misleading. He is shown as being 20, but he was actually born in 1816, so was about 25 or 26. He had been MP for Dungannon (following his father who had succeeded to the title of Earl of Ranfurly in 1840)for about 3 years by then, and was re-elected about 3 weeks after the census was taken (MP 1838-1851)<http://www.proni.gov.uk/introduction_-_ranfurly_papers_d235__d1932__d4183.pdf>] Looking back at the census, I think the Hon S Knox may have been The Hon William Stuart Knox (1826-1900), later a Colonel with the 51st Foot, JP for County Tyrone, and also MP for Dungannon following his brother from 1851-1874. The Hon G Knox was Granville Henry John Knox bc 1829 who drowned in 1845 while bathing at Plymouth. I suppose it is possible that JO was employed as a confectioner by the Knox / Northland / Ranfurly family?
I am not sure that any of the above helps with the 'fixing' of William Gillett in London, but hope that it all adds to the overall picture.